tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post8521963518563434540..comments2024-03-28T00:33:53.397+13:00Comments on Local Bodies: Shaping Southland's Future Without LigniteDave Kennedyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12428353657153292616noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-1966403520114915692013-01-28T10:27:38.832+13:002013-01-28T10:27:38.832+13:00We were former National voters and as Farmers that...We were former National voters and as Farmers that was against tradition. Not a difficult change being Green, hasn't changed my diet of Beef and lamb. Farming is accountable for decades of change to our environment and now it's time to act. Happy to lobby for a better environment. Thanks for keeping us informed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374360308414281428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-59289893746741447262013-01-27T17:03:52.883+13:002013-01-27T17:03:52.883+13:00Hmm, the Waihopai activist were members of the Plo...Hmm, the Waihopai activist were members of the Ploughshares movement who are a group of Christian pacifists. So obviously we need to be cautious around Christians. I'm not sure who damaged the experimental GM crops but they were definitely not directed to by the Green Party. <br /><br />Any more links to the Green movement, or are you calling all protesters Green? Perhaps we should make sure people are protected against all MPs, I understand both Gerry Brownlee and Trevor Mallard have assaulted people. <br /><br />The level of security put in place to protect Solid Energy was over the top and unnecessary, just like John Key's $5.2 million diplomatic protection squad. Dave Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428353657153292616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-74203010911089978282013-01-26T15:01:33.988+13:002013-01-26T15:01:33.988+13:00Waihopai sabotage.
Trespassing to remove GM crops...Waihopai sabotage.<br /><br />Trespassing to remove GM crops from experimental plantings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-43605709853857237452013-01-26T14:55:25.627+13:002013-01-26T14:55:25.627+13:00Anonymous, I do not wish to trade insults, I would...<br />Anonymous, I do not wish to trade insults, I would rather deal with facts and evidence. I am more than happy to withdraw my accusation of naivety if you provide some evidence to support your claim that "Green" protesters have a reputation for sabotage. I will ignore your implication that Green Voters would have to be stupid because surveys have shown that most people who vote Green tend to be well educated.<br /><br />I am also interested in your definition of "Green". Are you just categorising all those who publicly voice concerns about environmental and economic issues as "Green", or are you implying that most protesters are "Green"? I have no idea who all of our Coal Action group members vote for and although many may indeed vote Green we do have Labour and National people who are members or active supporters.<br />Dave Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428353657153292616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-15961528778592379902013-01-26T13:31:55.675+13:002013-01-26T13:31:55.675+13:00I called you naive first, so there!
Actually, I d...I called you naive first, so there!<br /><br />Actually, I didn't call you naive.<br />I suggested the comment was a little naive.<br /><br />Your comment was that security guards should not have regarded the action with caution. What use are security guards who do not react to any situation with caution?<br /><br /><i>"I think you are naive by accepting right wing propaganda and holding such simplistic views."</i><br /><br />Very persuasive arguement there, bsprout. Think I'll vote for the Greens sometime soon. You are seeking the stupid vote, aren't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-64763372995725416042013-01-26T12:23:54.978+13:002013-01-26T12:23:54.978+13:00"Green protestors do have a reputation for sa..."Green protestors do have a reputation for sabotage"<br /><br />I am just trying to think of the number of times "Green protester" have endangered lives with protest actions in New Zealand that would give them this reputation. I then tried to imagine the potential danger to the Solid Energy guards from a basket of food being presented in front of TV cameras and newspaper journalists. <br /><br />Unlike Solid Energy, who have been very vague about their plans and intentions, the Coal Action Network has been very open about its activities and have a good relationship with local police. The local leaders of Coal Action include a Grandmother with a QSM a retired forester and a 91 year old. For a group that focuses on organising public forums and writing submissions it seems highly unlikely that they would initiate violent and dangerous protests.<br /><br />I think you are naive by accepting right wing propaganda and holding such simplistic views. The mining industry itself has a poor reputation for safety and has spent a considerable amount of money spying on environmental groups. Activists on the West Coast have had their homes damaged and experienced physical threats, clearly people have more to fear from the mining industry than our group.Dave Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12428353657153292616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3612441315352179822.post-65880989673570508912013-01-26T10:45:02.430+13:002013-01-26T10:45:02.430+13:00"Rosemary had to leave the food basket of loc...<i>"Rosemary had to leave the food basket of local produce and packet of mothballs at the gate under the wary eyes of the ProVision guards, who seemed to regard the gesture with unnecessary caution."</i><br /><br />That comment is a little on the naive side, don't you think?<br /><br />Green protesters do have a reputation for sabotage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com